
Megan Maynard
Out of Order
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Posted - 2008.06.26 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: Jeckes And even for those nano fan boys that defend their broken pieces of crap to the death rattle.
Ships that rely on speed to live (like minmatar) should do so on their own measure.
Minmatar are the fastest ships in the game, other than intys, as such their own speed should be a damage mitigating factor. here have a look at this Eve tool thats been around since the dark ages.
http://www.eve-online.com/guide/en/g61_5.asp
Now on page 5 of the tracking guide, you'll get to simulate your own instances of weapons firing on a ship. you'll also learn that signature radius of the ship and signature resolution of the gun are factored into hit/miss % and DPS received on a successful hit.
What does this mean? it only takes a very measly 100-200 transversal to get under the guns of larger ships, and damage mitigation should come from being faster at a BASE speed, having a smaller signature than the resolution of the gun (tidbit: executioners have a signature radius of 33 as opposed to small turrets signature resolution of 40), maintaining gun range superiority (either being closer to the enemy than their tracking likes, or being farther away from them than their optimal+falloff likes), and exploiting damage types vs what the enemy's tank is weakest at.
Thats all that the game was originally designed upon.
This is where nanofibers and MWDs come into the mix and start making things stupid.
with a nanoship, your transversal can far exceed any gun's capability to track, meaning 0 damage, even if you get in their optimal, simply because the turret cant keep up. Simulate the effect of 5000 transversal in a frig vs small turrets with a tracking of .3, a signature resolution of 40, and an optimal of 10,000. look at the graph. See how pretty all the nice flat lines at the bottom of the graph are? See how the graph lacks any curvature as compared to the first time you used the guide to simulate a 100 transversal? See how that means 0% chance to hit and 0 DPS?
Notice too, how 5000 transversal isnt even close to the speed of current nanoships?
on the 4th page of the tracking guide, you cant even make something do 11k speed, as the page simply isnt big enough, but you can get it to 3k, and with that acheive a 2.8k transversal.
current nanoships can go 11k.
Anyone still defending nanoships at this point should be regarded as a syphilis infested deranged ******** monkey, and laughed at.
For the rest of you who arent, continue testing extensively with this guide, using multiple sizes of guns vs a target of frig size (30-46 sig.rad) at multiple transversals.
I think this is all the proof one needs to show that nanoships aren't just being whined about, they actually are totally broken and wrong.
Do you realize the amount of effort it takes to get a ship to 11k?
QFT.
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